[Eromereorybig]

http://shiningblades.blogspot.com/20...-to-islam.html

[unmalryAlalry]

http://shiningblades.blogspot.com/20...-to-islam.html

I heard that the name for black in Arabic is Hind.
And in Arabic (this too I heard) Hind means beautiful.
So basically it is beauty being attracted to beauty of Islam.
Quad Erat Demonstrendum

[Eromereorybig]

I heard that the name for black in Arabic is Hind.
And in Arabic (this too I heard) Hind means beautiful.
So basically it is beauty being attracted to beauty of Islam.
Quad Erat Demonstrendum

Black in Arabic is Aswad.
Hind means camel herd as far as I know.

[Dweplyododo]

black people are the most neglected by the ummah. We give dawah to the white man...emphasise the white man. Kiss up to the white man....how about black people? Seriously something to think about.

[Eromereorybig]

black people are the most neglected by the ummah. We give dawah to the white man...emphasise the white man. Kiss up to the white man....how about black people? Seriously something to think about.

We should give da'wah to every man..white, black or brown. May Allah guide us.

[Dweplyododo]

yes we should but why is it that most of our attention seems to be geared towards white westerners? I see so many people getting very excited when a white man converts to islam (even better if she is a lady so the guys can marry her/ALLAH save all sisters from marriage with the salafis who pass them around their halqah) Do people feel the same excitement when a black kafir accepts islam? Trust me the reaction is not the same. Many of these ikhwani groups make these blue eyed blonde haired guys the poster boys of their organizations and within some time these same people change their stance, become murtad etc.

[DexOnenlyCymn]

Yes, this is why I always wonder why da'wah is mostly restricted to Europe/North America, and not the whole huge continent of Africa. Maybe because there isn't much monetary value to be gained from Africa. The African people's hearts are very soft from what I have noticed. If they see the true beauty of Islam, they will come in hordes.

[Nurse_sero]

yes we should but why is it that most of our attention seems to be geared towards white westerners? I see so many people getting very excited when a white man converts to islam (even better if she is a lady so the guys can marry her/ALLAH save all sisters from marriage with the salafis who pass them around their halqah) Do people feel the same excitement when a black kafir accepts islam? Trust me the reaction is not the same. Many of these ikhwani groups make these blue eyed blonde haired guys the poster boys of their organizations and within some time these same people change their stance, become murtad etc.

It's not just the salafis, it's everywhere. To get attention, you need to be rich, white and beautiful.

[costamarianavia]

yes we should but why is it that most of our attention seems to be geared towards white westerners? I see so many people getting very excited when a white man converts to islam (even better if she is a lady so the guys can marry her/ALLAH save all sisters from marriage with the salafis who pass them around their halqah) Do people feel the same excitement when a black kafir accepts islam? Trust me the reaction is not the same. Many of these ikhwani groups make these blue eyed blonde haired guys the poster boys of their organizations and within some time these same people change their stance, become murtad etc.

Never thought about it, I hope brothers in our area do not do this. In my personal experience African Americans are MUCH more receptive to Islam and generally much more kind. Even if he is not a muslim, he respects Islam. for the insight.

[unmalryAlalry]

A lot of african are becomming murtad. So I for one think the dawah should be percel for every muslim, more so if one lives in a poorer area. The evengelical have targetted this content along with far east because none is responsive to them in the west where relegion is seen as a bankrupt ism. It is very similar to muslim situation.
They become murtad because of lack of spirituality thanks to salafist/non human experience and impersonal take on islam. There is no islam without suluk of some sort. Also muslim immigrant are not the best example. They haven't left their village in pakistan, india, bangladesh.
Allahualam

that hon-human experience and impersonal take on Islam is a rather accurate diagnosis of the state of affairs. brother.
Wassalam

[Ilaubuas]

black people are the most neglected by the ummah. We give dawah to the white man...emphasise the white man. Kiss up to the white man....how about black people? Seriously something to think about.

yes we should but why is it that most of our attention seems to be geared towards white westerners? I see so many people getting very excited when a white man converts to islam (even better if she is a lady so the guys can marry her/ALLAH save all sisters from marriage with the salafis who pass them around their halqah) Do people feel the same excitement when a black kafir accepts islam? Trust me the reaction is not the same. Many of these ikhwani groups make these blue eyed blonde haired guys the poster boys of their organizations and within some time these same people change their stance, become murtad etc.

SPOT ON!

[10traistintarry]

It's very important to understand that many of the African slaves that were transported to North America in the transatlantic slave trade were Muslims. There is plenty of documentation of many of our ancestors trying to preserve our deen. I believe that groups like the the Moorish Temple of Science, NOI,etc. were certainly outside the fold of Islam however it appeared to be an attempt of many of our ancestor trying to go back and return what was taken from us and Allah knows best

[10traistintarry]

yes we should but why is it that most of our attention seems to be geared towards white westerners? I see so many people getting very excited when a white man converts to islam (even better if she is a lady so the guys can marry her/ALLAH save all sisters from marriage with the salafis who pass them around their halqah) Do people feel the same excitement when a black kafir accepts islam? Trust me the reaction is not the same. Many of these ikhwani groups make these blue eyed blonde haired guys the poster boys of their organizations and within some time these same people change their stance, become murtad etc.

Interestingly enough sometimes I feel like the Black American Muslim community particularly is often ignored although we make up the vast majority of Muslims in America and have had Muslim communities for quite sometime for example in the city I'm from we have families with at least 4 or 5 generations of Muslims

[ATTILAGLIC]

Racism, nationalism, tribalism. These shouldn't be an issue to a Muslim community anywhere in the world. RasuluLlah had shown us the way to overcome all these and to be one united community and brotherhood. Often I emphasize to go back to the sunnah of the Prophet coz sunnah is not just the physical aspect of the ibadah, but more importantly to truly believe and to honestly apply the sunnah in the thinking and attitude.

May Allah guide us all to the right path, ameen.

[WaydayNef]

Yes, this is why I always wonder why da'wah is mostly restricted to Europe/North America, and not the whole huge continent of Africa. Maybe because there isn't much monetary value to be gained from Africa. The African people's hearts are very soft from what I have noticed. If they see the true beauty of Islam, they will come in hordes.

Since few years majority of foreign jamate are being send to Africa atleast from our city. I've heard from a brother who went to Africa, that whenever they use to go for ghust, many people use to get converted to Islam before the mutakalim concludes his talk.
The karguzari of African jamate is very encouraging. The African brothers have been exploited by missionary because of poverty.

[art_fan_12]

ASWW
Not true. The Kabaa is cloaked in black. It's the Noor inside not the looks. In Africa there is a local saying " white man black heart"....

[VowJoyday]

I dont think it helps when the majority of Indians want there skin to look like a white person...

[Brewpralgar]

black people are the most neglected by the ummah. We give dawah to the white man...emphasize the white man. Kiss up to the white man....how about black people? Seriously something to think about.

Even after reverting to Islam they still are neglected, they are looked down on and judged because of the color of their skin. They are not welcomed nor accepted when walking into any gathering ( even and Islamic one) . In less than 1 year 3 local black sisters have reverted to Islam here and have joined a group of 20 sisters who reverted within the last few years. These sisters don't mix with the community here which are mostly ( gujratis) they don't feel welcomed. It's sad as when the kids of one of these sisters would go to the masjid grown men would pick on him and accuse him of stuff that happens in an around the masjid,most of the time done by our own muslims gujrati kids. Why do they do that? cos he's BLACK and Poor : ( due to that they rarely go to that masjid.Many times they were in the wrong and had no choice but to apologize to the parents of this kid.

I can go on and on .... but I don't know why this sort of negative attitude still exist amongst us Muslims? It's sad ! really Ironic also knowing that we live in a " black populated " country .

May Allah guide us all ameen

Yes, this is why I always wonder why da'wah is mostly restricted to Europe/North America, and not the whole huge continent of Africa. Maybe because there isn't much monetary value to be gained from Africa. The African people's hearts are very soft from what I have noticed. If they see the true beauty of Islam, they will come in hordes.

And to the Caribbean .....

Yup so true and I've seen with the blacks here ( non Muslims) when you talk to them about Islam, they are very keen to hear about it,most of the time impressed by what they hear. Black people here are descendants from Africa , came as slaves to work on the plantations owned by the white Europeans who settled here. Most of them were Muslims so I've heard, sadly generations down we live in a country where the population is majority Christians. It's the same for the rest of the Caribbean.

All the reverts sisters I know came from christian homes, one sister her dad is a catholic priest. They been searching for truth, for that spirituality and close connection they feel now that they are Muslim.

I dream of the day when I can see a local black child,who grew up as a Muslim here stand at the mimbar in one of our masaajids and address the gathering or become the imam of one of our gujrati populated masaajids or maybe lead the taraweeh salah .....

[agiopwer]

First off, "Black" is a condition of the heart, so we should refer to Muslims of African decent as "Muslims of African decent"

Second, I dont know how many of you guys have been around the US, but it appears to me that the majority of American born converts are of African decent. For example, The American talibs of my Sheikh are mainly African American, I am one of maybe 10 white guys in the whole jamaat. So it seems that the majority of dawah is aimed at African Americans, now this may not be the intention of dai's, but it is clearly Allahs intention that He wants these peole to worship him in greater numbers than their counterpats. The majority of converts to Islam I know are of African Ame4rican decent - I currently know only 5 Muslims who are white - thats it

Now Dawah to Africa is a different story, I speculate that dawah missions to non muslim africa are few because it is dangerous - africas a rough place, however, the christians seem to be capable of braving the continent, I dont see why Muslims arent (perhaps lack of funds maybe?)

[DexOnenlyCymn]

to non muslim africa are few because it is dangerous - africas a rough place, however, the christians seem to be capable of braving the continent, I dont see why Muslims arent (perhaps lack of funds maybe?)

Along with the danger (and probably more so) would be the lack of comfortable living conditions. I've heard of some stories like br shoeb.momin mentioned, where in less than one day a whole tribe has converted to Islam.

As you mentioned, if the Christians can brave such conditions, then the Muslims should even more. The Christians help with medical aid, food, water etc etc. I know many people look down upon Christians for that, because they are 'buying' and 'bribing' the Africans with these amenities. However, a person who is in need of basic necessities, why would he not follow the one who is providing him such? I think we Muslims should take a lesson and do our best to do even better, provide our Africa brethren with the spiritual necessities as well as the physical ones like food.