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Old 10-23-2010, 05:10 AM   #21
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My lord, you guys get off easy. In the US, 17 over would be about a $250 ticket.
Generally your laws in the US are much more strict in many different area's of law.
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Old 10-23-2010, 05:16 AM   #22
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Well yesterday I got hit with an automated photo speed trap, probably 63-64KM/h in a 50 zone. Now I get to wait 2-3 weeks to see if I get a bill in the mail from the police, thankfully no penalty or demerits. I worked for free that day... [cursing]
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:03 AM   #23
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It depends,I've found usually if you are nice to the officer and admit you were speeding you're more likely to just get a ticket for "failure to obey posted limits".

I got caught at 98mph in my old outback and the cop told me it would be enough to take away my license right then and there,40mph over the posted limit,but since I was nice about it and owned up to it he gave me the lesser charge.

That has worked for me about 4 times now,though,if you're out of state your results will probably not be the same lol.
This also goes for being nice and candid with the judge if you want to go to court, cause sometimes cops are just assholes. I've gotten 4 tickets over the years for speeding and each time, went to court, got lesser charge with no points, or no charge every time. (one was a bullshit month-end 'around' 8 mph over, two for doing 85 in 80mph traffic and one for "over one hundred miles per hour")

Though, unless the 60/3pts is going to hurt, just pay it, don't do it again and be done with it.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:44 AM   #24
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No I have not. What's that.
Here in the US, many jurisdictions will allow you to take a traffic school class that is 2-8 hours long and costs $50+ in exchange for not having the violation reported to the state and having the ticket dropped.(a reported speeding ticket shoots your insurance up) I got a speeding ticket in January for 41 in a 30 zone and I took this traffic school and I ended up not receiving any points although traffic school was more than the original fine.($92 to pay it vs. $107 for school)

Not sure if they have it anywhere else as that would probably be the best option if available, but if it isn't an option, its your choice.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:59 AM   #25
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I can't remember the last time I wasn't going at least 5-10 MPH over the speed limit, along with almost every car I see.
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:22 AM   #26
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Generally your laws in the US are much more strict in many different area's of law.
I don't know the fines maybe be higher but points stay on your license for a much shorter time.

And what the hell is this offense? Furious driving - 3 to 9 points

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ns/DG_10022425
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:10 PM   #27
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I don't know the fines maybe be higher but points stay on your license for a much shorter time.

And what the hell is this offense? Furious driving - 3 to 9 points

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ns/DG_10022425
It's when ur TOOO FAST and furious in your rice burner.
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:01 PM   #28
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I don't know the fines maybe be higher but points stay on your license for a much shorter time.

And what the hell is this offense? Furious driving - 3 to 9 points

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...ns/DG_10022425
Well that was my reaction to seeing the police car. I barely thought about speed, it was more to do with being on the wrong side of the road too wrong and being done for dangerous driving.
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Old 10-30-2010, 05:22 PM   #29
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Just got an insurance renewal quote from Direct Line of £643, which is good. I told them about the points and it jumped to £980! That's absolutely crazy considering it usually makes no difference.
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Old 10-30-2010, 07:41 PM   #30
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Welcome to my world - my car is actually my wife's car (she has 2) but I'm insured on it as the primary user. Fully comp comes to around £240-ish; however, if we registered the car and got it insured all under my name it would cost around £600. I can understand that your risk increases if you've been given points on your licence but this makes no sense at all.
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Old 10-30-2010, 08:13 PM   #31
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Welcome to my world - my car is actually my wife's car (she has 2) but I'm insured on it as the primary user. Fully comp comes to around £240-ish; however, if we registered the car and got it insured all under my name it would cost around £600. I can understand that your risk increases if you've been given points on your licence but this makes no sense at all.
I'd read it up on the interwebs and lots of articles tend to say it should barely make a difference because so many people get points nowadays with tickets been handed out left, right and center.

Anyway, Audi nicely insured by for about £550.
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Old 10-31-2010, 04:35 AM   #32
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I don't know the fines maybe be higher but points stay on your license for a much shorter time.
This I agree
I think you guys across the pond worry more about tickets/points. Here you can simply lawyer up, and then put off, and put off going to court... maybe move the case to another jurisdiction in the county, when the case does finally go to court, the cop who pulled you over doesn't show and it is dismissed. And that is your option when the plethora of other, court approved options to make the ticket disappear have already been exhausted. (pretty much you can get a ticket every six months and never have it go on your record with court approved adjudication(do not get another ticket for 6 mos and take defensive driving))

Basically, as long as you are 20 or less over the speed limit, it is just a slap on the wrist that won't go on your record unless you just don't care about money and out of laziness pay the ticket.

Because of this, on an interstate highway outside of town, everyone drives 15 mph over >>~85 in a 70
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Old 10-31-2010, 05:46 AM   #33
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You people just need to slow down, such a simple solution lol.
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Old 10-31-2010, 06:17 AM   #34
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:59 AM   #35
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My lord, you guys get off easy. In the US, 17 over would be about a $250 ticket.
Yes and no. Our tickets are more expensive, however the first hit on insurace from speeding isn't bad. The 2nd and 3rd are VERY bad. a 3rd offense for speeding usually results in a 6 month driving suspension.

Me? I'd contact a traffic lawyer. Every major speeding offence I've done I just get a lawyer for. In 2000 or so I got it for 89mph in a 55mph zone. Clear weather, no traffic. Just me in my car going faster than I should have been. Took a lawyer with me, $150 to the laywer and he did the hush hush talk with the judge. I walked off that one with nothing.

2nd offense was this year. 85mph in a 55mph via "pacing" by an officer that didnt' actually bother to pace me. Her words were "I had to do 100mph to catch you". In the end, her words didn't hold up in court though as Pacing means that they use their certified speedometers to say how fast you were going. Aka, old school. But since she never matched my speed, I got off on a technicality. They ended up changing it to unsafe lane usage and giving me 6 months supervision. Which ends Nov. 1st. [Thumb Up]

So, take a lawyer, I don't know how much it will cost, but at least talk to one and get some options listed for you. Be honest with the lawyer, completely honest. They know the legal system better than you.

For minor offenses I just plead guilty and let the Judge decide, most times they'll give me a fine and supervision that lasts 30 days or so.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:19 PM   #36
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That simply won't work in the UK - if you've been convicted of speeding then there will be hard evidence of this, not just the statement of a police officer. The only time one could realistically get away with it is (a) you had genuine reason to be believe the speed recording equipment had malfunctioned or (b) you had legitimate reasons for speeding, beyond "it was an open road with no traffic."
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Old 10-31-2010, 11:00 PM   #37
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Not sure if I read the thread thoroughly enough - but OHP mentioned asking for a Driver's awareness course.
Couldn't see if the OP pursued this or not.


But some counties/Police depts (not all) - offer a Drivers awareness course.
Instead of picking up the 3 points, you can attend the course and basically it teaches you everything you already know ie don't speed, act responsibly. I think it's a one day course.

I don't think you can get out of the fine though.

So it might be worth asking.
Put up with going to a boring course for a day - but avoid points on your licence.


Bear in mind though - not all regions offer this.
And there may be other issues to consider for your eligibility - such as how much did you go over the speed limit (17mph in this case).

Good luck.


Otherwise if that is not an option - take the points and fine.


EDIT: http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/Spe...essCourse.html
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Old 11-01-2010, 12:31 AM   #38
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That simply won't work in the UK - if you've been convicted of speeding then there will be hard evidence of this, not just the statement of a police officer. The only time one could realistically get away with it is (a) you had genuine reason to be believe the speed recording equipment had malfunctioned or (b) you had legitimate reasons for speeding, beyond "it was an open road with no traffic."
In most cases LIDAR, Radar are considered hard evidence, and its nearly impossible to get out of them. Generally what people do is plead guilty and if the judge is nice usually you get supervision as long as the record is clean.

My 85 in a 55 was pure speculation on the officers part. She never matched my speed, so I got out of it because there was reasonable doubt as to the accuracy of the stated speed.

My 89 in a 55 was LIDAR, and I have no idea what was said between the Judge, and the Traffic Lawyer. All I know is that I paid him $150 outside and the ticket was basically dismissed. However, I was also the small fish in the room. At 89mph I was the slowest person there, the next person was doing 100mph+, one lady got nabbed for 140+ . The judge was lenient that day handing out supervision left and right.
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Old 11-01-2010, 01:23 AM   #39
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advice: dont speed.
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Old 11-01-2010, 02:31 AM   #40
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advice: dont speed.
Who doesn't when they're overtaking?
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