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Old 01-03-2012, 01:25 PM   #41
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Ignore the home-schooled meathead, as anyone that believes in mystical woohoo and other ****ing bullshit should be.

Dig yourself out of your bath of self-loathing and pay attention to your statements.

Enjoy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_l...thermodynamics
Thats good advice. When someone needs to lose weight, simply point them to a Wiki article about the law of thermodynamics. Actually better yet, just stick to number crunching in your stuffy cubicle. [xmascandle]
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:35 PM   #42
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Find an exercise activity you enjoy, and the pounds will drop. In addition to the burned energy during exercise, an hour of good exercise increases the calorie burn greatly for the next 14 hours or so of.

I like ultra marathon cycling, which can be an extreme caolrie burner because it's possible to go on for so long. The most I have burned in one effort is ~4800 kcal in 9 hours on a 235 km ride, which is pretty crazy amount of calories for someone who only weighed 63 kg. On a regular three hour ride I burn ~1300-1700 kcal. A heavier person burns a lot more. The cool thing about long distance cycling is that you can treat yourself afterwards. You actually have to.[thumbup] I weighed ~75 kg in 2008 and have stabilized at around 62 kg now, and I haven't been trying to lose weight. An overweight person who tried to lose weight through exercise would do so quicker than me.

Chicken and turkey breasts are lean and taste well with a good sauce and a salad.

Don't fall for "alternative" schemes with no science to back them up.
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Old 01-03-2012, 01:47 PM   #43
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Hmm why would you want to lose weight from 75kg down to 62kg.... 75kg is a normal weight whereas 62kg is pretty puny and underweight for a male
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:07 PM   #44
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Thats good advice. When someone needs lose weight, simply point them to a Wiki article about the law of thermodynamics. Actually better yet, just stick to number crunching in your stuffy cubicle. [xmascandle]
That was actually just for you, in order to crush your new age, hippy beliefs.

Magic does not exist. All biology is bound by the same rules of the universe. Poking a bunch of holes in this topic will not relieve anything.

In fact, poking a bunch of holes in anything hardly ever gets any results.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:16 PM   #45
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Hmm why would you want to lose weight from 75kg down to 62kg.... 75kg is a normal weight whereas 62kg is pretty puny and underweight for a male
You simplify this topic too much. Humans are too complex for charts and rules of thumb.

Manny Pacquiao is ~62kg and is ripped to shreds... for his height.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:29 PM   #46
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That was actually just for you, in order to crush your new age, hippy beliefs.

Magic does not exist. All biology is bound by the same rules of the universe. Poking a bunch of holes in this topic will not relieve anything.

In fact, poking a bunch of holes in anything hardly ever gets any results.
Horrible. Your retorts are all the same. But thats why I love you
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:36 PM   #47
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You simplify this topic too much. Humans are too complex for charts and rules of thumb.

Manny Pacquiao is ~62kg and is ripped to shreds... for his height.
He just diets too! Doesn't even exercise.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:55 PM   #48
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You simplify this topic too much. Humans are too complex for charts and rules of thumb.

Manny Pacquiao is ~62kg and is ripped to shreds... for his height.
Eugh I was giving guidelines for the poster to follow....

Did the poster ask for an essay on advanced fitness techniques?... No... He asked for some guidelines for losing weight... There is no other way to do that other then guidelines which have been established...

If he follows what I said he will lose weight... I think I managed to sum up the basics pretty well and made quite a helpfull post but oh well some people will always moan about something :/
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:44 PM   #49
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Depending on your current eating habits, simply eating good, wholesome, unprocessed food in a sensible amount, coupled with exercise is really a sensible starting point. If you try and start something that is too complicated you will not stick to it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:57 PM   #50
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Hmm why would you want to lose weight from 75kg down to 62kg.... 75kg is a normal weight whereas 62kg is pretty puny and underweight for a male
I never said I wanted to lose weight, nor have I lost too much
weight. 62 kg puts me in the low end of normal bmi, if that's important to you. Read what I wrote again.
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:55 PM   #51
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Gordon... is that you?
Not this Gordon - I'd've suggested a glass of water with your food, or when you were feeling hungry, to give the stomach the feeling of having something in it.

Soup is a darned good idea, though, because of the way the body processes it it stays in the stomach a lot longer, reducing the feeling of hunger for longer.

Other things that will help burn off calories would be wearing less clothing, using less heating - the body will burn more calories to maintain body temperature - walking and using stairs where practical, etc.
Not a big difference, but it all helps.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:03 PM   #52
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That's less than 400 calories.
Depends how hard he's 'biking'.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:08 PM   #53
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Depends how hard he's 'biking'.
Biking is useless. As Gnius said, just eat some soup.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:15 PM   #54
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Biking is useless. As Gnius said, just eat some soup.
Idiot*, and I said why soup's a good idea.

*You yourself said "... I feel adding cardiovascular exercise to your lifestyle is one of the few ways to permanently keep weight off. Thirty-minutes of cardio about 5 days a week will help you shed weight, and keep it off. .."
GNIUS was dismissing 30 minutes of biking (a low impact cardio-vascular exercise) and my comment was because some people barely turn the pedals and others go flat out [the benefits] would depend on how hard one pedalled.
As an aside, top cyclists are supposedly producing more than 1 horsepower at times, certainly a significant use of energy and even an enthusiastic cycle machine user should be using a significant amount of energy.

As I doubt you've ever tried riding any form of bike, let alone 'riding' it hard, I expect you'll also dismiss that.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:18 PM   #55
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Idiot, and I said why soup's a good idea.
Sarcasm my friend. Please read the thread.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:32 PM   #56
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Sarcasm my friend. Please read the thread.
An average person cannot use up more than 400 calories in 30 minutes of exercise. Not even close. I doubt that more than 5% of the population have enough exercise reserve to exercise that intensely for 30 minutes... and I think that the 5% number is optimistic.

Most people don't realize how few calories they burn during low/medium intensity exercise.

Also, stick to the original topic. You were going to prove to everyone that dieting was not enough to lose weight without exercise, and you were going to do it using your references above.

Obviously you were not saying that it merely helps to exercise, since you would be agreeing with me.
What you are saying is correct, but has no bearing on the fact that cutting calories IS enough... just not ideal. For many patients exercise is a deal breaker. Thus, I have no qualms about recommending calorie cutting alone to lose weight. Would it be better to exercise as well? Yes of course. But more often than not people use exercise as an excuse not to cut enough calories off their diet... and of course then they go on to exercise much less than necessary... and don't lose any weight. Seen enough of that.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:20 PM   #57
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back in the days i lost about 25lbs in a little over half a year mainly by counting calories.
1000 calories a day and youŽll see those pounds going.

My tip: Only drink water and eat lots of rice.
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:46 PM   #58
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back in the days i lost about 25lbs in a little over half a year mainly by counting calories.
1000 calories a day and youŽll see those pounds going.

My tip: Only drink water and eat lots of rice.
i dont think i could do 1000 a day lol, to maintain my current weight im at around 3000 calories a day so even dropping down to 2000 is a big drop, dropping to 1000 would be crazy i think for me
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:33 AM   #59
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i dont think i could do 1000 a day lol, to maintain my current weight im at around 3000 calories a day so even dropping down to 2000 is a big drop, dropping to 1000 would be crazy i think for me
YouŽd be surprised how many calories you can save by just drinking water.
And youŽd be equally surprised how much rice you can eat and still stay under 1000cal.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:15 AM   #60
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YouŽd be surprised how many calories you can save by just drinking water.
And youŽd be equally surprised how much rice you can eat and still stay under 1000cal.
That is just plain unsafe and you will feel like shite.... Do you seriously think you can get all the nutrition you need from water and rice? Don't do that.... Just eat 500kcal under maintanance amount and be patient...
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